By Scott Unger • Of the News-Register • 

City aims to reduce the land needed for population growth

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B

And yet another reason to move out of Oregon!

fiddler

Let's get past the 19th century and into the 21st century: build up, not out

Bleepbloop

Can I give you a hand in packing? Glad to get you out of the state. I’m sure Idaho would welcome you.

Bigfootlives

Don’t worry, read the article titled “Local development standards go by wayside under new law” - Tina Kotek’s new standards for development does away with those pesky things setback standards, parking spots, porches, balconies, and even unecessary things like windows.

We can call the Kotek’s Pads. Wait, that didn’t sound right.

Anyway, how are you doing Bleep?

Bleepbloop

So when the big bad democrat pushes deregulation, she is overstepping local sovereignty. When trump/musk push deregulation they are fighting the evils of an over reaching government. Do I have that right?

Please don’t complain about housing costs, homeless, and the general cost of things. These deregulations are just trying to reduce the cost and Impediments of housing regulations. That will eventually increase housing and reduce cost.

Don Dix

The cost of buildable land has always escalated, never decreased (in my lifetime). Since 2016 (when this 'fix' was first explored), wages, materials, and permits (there are many) are all up considerably. Cutting corners can save money, but the finished product is then flawed.

Only when supply out-paces demand will housing costs somewhat stabilize, but cost of the total package for a home (new or otherwise) will not decrease.

mikes

Don. I understand your point about supply/demand. However if I'm building ten units do you think if do not have have parking, or other living features now required, that I can not build a house cheaper and sell it cheaper. Oh. Your point. I can build it cheaper but because of demand I can make some good money. I get it.

Don Dix

mikes -- the house you are speaking of is called a 'spec house'(built with the prospect of selling) ... you pay all costs, including interest (unless you are the bank). Every day it goes unsold your assumed profit erodes.

Big corporations such as those building along Baker Creek Rd. can handle not selling quickly, but a small company (or individual) might struggle under the same circumstances.

Otherwise, if you are hinting that this is a way to make 'easy money', prudent business sense says you might want to rethink.

Moe

"Only when supply out-paces demand will housing costs somewhat stabilize, but cost of the total package for a home (new or otherwise) will not decrease."

Just saying ...

Housing Values in Washington DC COLLAPSE 36.5% in ONE WEEK

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/national-news/housing-values-in-washington-dc-collapse-36-5-in-one-week

Don Dix

DC has no rural area ... zero. In Oregon, only 2 counties (Multnomah 61.9% & Washington 82.6%) have less than 90% rural land ... 7 have 100%.

Trumps mandate to government workers is causing a sell off (supply is increasing and demand is low). According to Hal Turner, the simple reason is 92% of DC voted Democrat - and now the 'Grant Money Gravy Train' is off the tracks, hence, sell.

Comparing east coast property prices with no rural areas to property in Oregon (or any other 'rural state') is apples to nothing.

Moe

If D.C. had excess land, would that not tend to force down prices even more?

Anyway, the point is a caution against being dogmatic about markets.

Otis

Seems like the plan is to reduce the need for more housing by just reducing the population of the U.S. by any means necessary.

Moe

The appearance is that, generally, Oregon is seeing a population decrease. High mortality, morbidity, and low fertility. People moving in from elsewhere, or out to elsewhere, is an uncertain factor.

Planning almost always makes things worse anyway. At least comprehensive plans, especially if facilitating population growth. Solutions always create problems. So, leave it alone.

Sure, a new stop sign here, sewer repair there, is fine, just normal. But not more planning, please!

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