By Paul Daquilante • Staff Writer • 

Chapman hits the streets to make her case

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Joel

She's going to make an excellent Judge. She's got my vote!

T.W.S.

Well, her union endorsements do not surprise me. She is legal counsel for most of them and have worked with the others. It is expected, it's no different than the countless law enforcement and county officials that support Miller. Those with whom you work with will undoubtedly support you.

What matters are all the other endorsements, like state representatives, local businesses, and local attorneys to include defense attorneys who respect Miller's abilities and experience.

While both meet the basic criteria under state law to be a judge, with a court system that hears over 400-450 criminal cases a month compared to a handful of civil cases, there really is only one who can hit the ground running due to their experience.

But hey, if voters want a rookie that will take a lot of time to get up to speed vs a seasoned aficionado...that will be up to the voters. Hopefully they will consider the impact their vote will have for the next six years when casting their vote.

Good luck to both.

Lulu

Unfortunately, we've already witnessed too many "seasoned aficionados," to this county's detriment.
Vote Jennifer Chapman.

T.W.S.

Lulu - who? Name them. Just don't claim it, prove it. Let's discuss these judges you claim have been a detriment to the county. I have mixed feelings on some of them, so we might agree, might not. Depends on who you name and why. Let's discuss it. Discuss and I promise not to 'argue.'

Lulu

Isn't it reassuring how so many of us in America can hold diverging viewpoints while never having to question someone's IQ, psychological impairment, moral compass, integrity--or lack thereof? You don't snap your fingers, pick the guests or run the show, TWS; but be of good cheer: if your candidate doesn't win, you can always relocate out of county.

T.W.S.

Lulu - "Isn't it reassuring how so many of us in America can hold diverging viewpoints while never having to question someone's IQ, psychological impairment, moral compass, integrity--or lack thereof? You don't snap your fingers, pick the guests or run the show, TWS..."

Just as I thought. Thank you for demonstrating that you have no interest in having a civil discussion in substantiating your claim disparaging the current sitting judges of the Yamhill County Circuit Court. Further evidence of your emotive filters in full gear. Smear, deny facts, deflect, and smear some more.

Lulu

Okay--I can't resist: One is yet with us and occasionally still used; the other has departed this vale of tears:
Carroll Tichenor and Harry Devlin.

Knock off the "emotive." Try what we call in my country a synonym.

Trafik

I'm guessing T.W.S. took one community college psych course, misundertanding about two-thirds of the curriculum but picking up several general concepts and a handful of polysyllabic words. (I'm unsure where he found the Latin although I'd wager it wasn't graduate school or the Marine Corps.) Then, after getting all worked up from repeat visits to a handful of far-right conspiracy theory websites, he blesses us with the tinny loudspeaker of his incessant, torturous one-man-band juche.

Just harmless speculation, mind you.

If anyone thinks I'm being unduly harsh, please see: https://newsregister.com/article?articleTitle=letters-to-the-editor-sept-28-2018--1538157280--30943--

T.W.S.

Lulu - "Okay--I can't resist: One is yet with us and occasionally still used; the other has departed this vale of tears:
Carroll Tichenor and Harry Devlin."

Don't know Harry Devlin, before my time. Tichenor, he retired before I could get a good feel for what kind of judge he was in his final years...

That being said, they are of the old guard. Interesting you picked two non-current full-time judges to rationalize your claim, and not a single judge on the bench at present.

Lulu - "Knock off the "emotive." Try what we call in my country a synonym. - ""

Redundancy principle.

T.W.S.

Trafik - "I'm guessing T.W.S. took one community college psych course, misundertanding (sic) about two-thirds of the curriculum but picking up several general concepts and a handful of polysyllabic words. (I'm unsure where he found the Latin although I'd wager it wasn't graduate school or the Marine Corps.) Then, after getting all worked up from repeat visits to a handful of far-right conspiracy theory websites, he blesses us with the tinny loudspeaker of his incessant, torturous one-man-band juche."

Ah, more sophomoric ad hominem fallacies demonstrating your pseudo-intellectual prowess. Too chicken or rather ill-equipped to address the message and not the messenger. The latter being the easiest since it takes 0 effort and obviously no intelligence.

Trafik

Since you've clearly already forgotten that I'm not taking a stance on your message but on the way you deliver it, T.W.S., I'll repeat it yet again. Your crude and ham-handed manner of delivery serves only to alienate and insult the people you seem to be trying to reach. You may be the smartest man in the room but your deportment paints you as a buffoon.

However, nice catch on the typo. I rarely make those.

T.W.S.

Trafik - "Since you've clearly already forgotten that I'm not taking a stance on your message..."

Oh, I have not forgotten. I just didn't see the need to act like you in this thread; but clearly you have no problem dragging your manic diatribe here to disrupt this thread now. Speaks volumes about you.

Trafik - "...I'll repeat it yet again. Your crude and ham-handed manner of delivery serves only to alienate and insult the people you seem to be trying to reach. You may be the smartest man in the room but your deportment paints you as a buffoon."

Says the clown romping from discussion room to discussion room to feed his mania about little old me.

Trafik - "However, nice catch on the typo. I rarely make those."

Please, you've made plenty grammatical errors throughout your commentary. I just didn't see the need to address them all. It wasn't germane to your nonsensical whining, purposely derailing conversations to masturbate your ego.

Trafik

I'm not sure I've ever encountered someone with an intellectual functionality like yours, T.W.S., but I know when I'm outclassed. I'm just humbled and grateful it was to someone with your level of communications skills.

Speaking of grateful, I bet Lisl Miller is deeply thankful for your erudite support.

Whatever the case, congratulations, T.W.S. In addition to establishing your credential as a true vulgarian, you've also just proven osmium is, in fact, not the densest naturally occurring element, after all.

Ten-four, good buddy. Over and out.

T.W.S.

Trafik - "I'm not sure I've ever encountered someone with an intellectual functionality like yours, T.W.S., but I know when I'm outclassed. I'm just humbled and grateful it was to someone with your level of communications skills.

Whatever the case, congratulations, T.W.S. In addition to establishing your credential as a true vulgarian, you've also just proven osmium is, in fact, not the densest naturally occurring element, after all.

Ten-four, good buddy. Over and out."

And the ad hominem mania just keeps on coming. You're like the Energizer Bunny, you just keep beating the dead horse, bang bang bang bang...but it will NEVER get up. It's a useless venture, but you know that already; yet continue to do it, why? Some misplaced sense of sport (i.e. egotistical trolling) or spite (i.e. being a jerk for the mere sake of being a jerk)!?!

Either way it is of no consequence. Sooner or alter you'll get an itch that you cannot scratch and will eventually return with as much, if not more juvenile vitriol as before. Making each sequel worse than the original.

Lulu

It finally hit me--TWS' style is identical to Trump's.
This, by the way, is no compliment.
I have a swell idea: why doesn't TWS take the next six years and spend it in law school? Granted, that abbreviated amount of time entails fast-tracking but it can be done and, most definitely, by TWS. Let's face it: six years will pass regardless. How about a GoFundMe account? I think many who comment on this forum would contribute; in exchange, they must, naturally, witness progress reflected by a superior GPA. Quis judicabit ipsos judices? Indeed.

T.W.S.

^^^ Well that confirms what I already knew about you...not only are you a hypocrite, you're an intellectual coward. Congratulations! Wear that badge with honor! You've earned it!!!! ^^^

Sponge

It started out that we were all wrong because of our "emotive filters"; then we were all guilty of "as hominem" attacks; now, apparently, we are all just a bunch of hypocrites. So much for an honest debate. You rock, dude.

T.W.S.

Sponge - "It started out that we were all wrong because of our "emotive filters"; then we were all guilty of "as hominem" attacks; now, apparently, we are all just a bunch of hypocrites. So much for an honest debate. You rock, dude."

First off, you and your cohorts DERAILED any change of there being an "honest debate."

Second, tagup and others were getting "triggered," thus the emotive filters.

Third, you and your cohorts just couldn't help yourself (like a woman around chocolate (no offense intended to women)), you dove right in head first on the ad hominem arguments with zeal, not knowing when to give it a rest.

Last but not least, you all were accusing me of dong EXACTLY what you clowns were doing.

Your fault/problem...not mine.

tagup

and by "triggered" you mean insulted..... you called people (not me personally) ignorant and other disrespectful descriptions if they didn't agree with your point of view.....

...YOU were insulting people even if you didn't intend to...That fact was recognized and commented on by multiple posters on this forum...go back and look!....The fact that you won't admit it is a YOU problem.....and doesn't change what you wrote.

Sponge

"...not knowing when to give it a rest." You are hilarious, dude!

T.W.S.

tagup - "and by "triggered" you mean insulted..... you called people (not me personally) ignorant and other disrespectful descriptions if they didn't agree with your point of view....."

English 101 lesson time, again...*sigh*

Ignorant is an adjective. It describes a lack of knowledge, information or awareness about something in particular.

I cannot call [a] person ignorant, I can only call to the carpet their lack of knowledge, information or awareness about something in particular because "ignorant" is an ADJECTIVE!

Now, had I referred to someone as an 'ignoramus,' that would be [at] the person because that is a noun that means a stupid person. And at no time have I used that noun in this forum here or the letters to the editor 9/28.

I do not have the power to insult anyone. It is through one's own emotive filters that leaves them feeling insulted and getting "triggered" over innocuous terminology they clearly don't understand. Like the difference between the use of an adjective over a noun.


tagup - "...YOU were insulting people..."

That is your subjective emotively filtered interpretation, not fact.

tagup - "That fact was recognized and commented on by multiple posters on this forum...go back and look!....The fact that you won't admit it is a YOU problem.....and doesn't change what you wrote."

Just like you they are using the same emotive filters misinterpreting what I wrote. You have to read the entirety of what was written in context and not stop at the trigger word(s) and start commenting emotively. It is a foolish venture...

T.W.S.

Sponge ' ""...not knowing when to give it a rest." You are hilarious, dude!"

Thank you for proving my point.

tagup

"English 101 time again... *Sigh*" Condesending..no other way to interpret that comment.

"ignorant..is an adjective".. blah, blah, blah.. ....I believe your exact wording was "obviously ignorant"...both condescending and insulting...If you don't think being called ignorant is insulting....than it is you who is ignorant.

You can talk about filters and trigger words and definitions of the words you used all day long.....It's a cop out.. to cover your ego....you disrespected people for their point of view and you refuse to own it...... That's why you were called out by multiple people..
Stating that you don't have the power to insult anyone?...Then neither do I..so why are you so defensive about my (and my "cohorts") comments?....It's just your own filters that are triggering you...so get over it!

Sponge

TWS: Thank you for being so self-absorbed that you don't even get the irony of your own point. Rock on, dude!

T.W.S.

Sponge = "TWS: Thank you for being so self-absorbed that you don't even get the irony of your own point. Rock on, dude!"

It is to you who is so self-absorbed that you just don't know when to 'tace!'

As I said before, if you stop with the ad hominem arguments then I have nothing further to comment on. The more you demonstrate your mania with them directed at me, I will continue to respond in exposing the sophomoric banality being expressed.

T.W.S.

tagup - ""English 101 time again... *Sigh*" Condesending (sic).."

Much deserved based on your consistent lack of reading comprehension skills.

tagup - """ignorant..is an adjective".. blah, blah, blah.. ....I believe your exact wording was "obviously ignorant"..."

It doesn't matter what you believe, only what you can prove. And at no time did I use those exact two terms together in a sentence (i.e. quoting out of context & straw man fallacy).

tagup - "If you don't think being called ignorant is insulting...."

One cannot be (at the person) called ignorant. What part of the difference between the use of an adjective and a noun did you fail to comprehend?

tagup - "than it is you who is ignorant.""

Hypocrite.

tagup - "You can talk about filters and trigger words and definitions of the words you used all day long.....It's a cop out.. "

Not a cop out, irrefutable FACT! There is a huge difference between an apt adjective and an apt noun used in the proper context to convey the meaning intended of the term. You're just denying that FACT.

tagup - "you disrespected people for their point of view and you refuse to own it...... That's why you were called out by multiple people.."

Nope. For your edification (cut n past into browser): https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/wander-woman/201507/5-steps-managing-your-emotional-triggers

"The 1st step is to accept responsibility for your reactions."

tagup - "...so why are you so defensive about my (and my "cohorts") comments?....It's just your own filters that are triggering you...so get over it!"

Not triggered. Just exposing the blatant hypocrisy of your sophomoric banality, failing to address the message vs messenger.

Sponge

"...sophomoric banality during expressed." You must be writing this stuff while looking into a mirror. Keep the laugh track coming, dude!

T.W.S.

Sponge - ""...sophomoric banality (sic) during expressed." You must be writing this stuff while looking into a mirror. Keep the laugh track coming, dude!"

Quoting out of context and straw man fallacies.

Sophomoric banality = "You must be writing this stuff while looking into a mirror. Keep the laugh track coming, dude."

tagup

Sept 28 Letters to the editor:
Second comment directed towards Janet Langenwalter: Final sentence.

Written by T.W.S.

"You really need to learn how to read the data, because you are really way off on your obvious ignorant interpretation of it....."

so... shall I assume you forgot?....or are you being dishonest?


T.W.S.

tagup = "Sept 28 Letters to the editor:
Second comment directed towards Janet Langenwalter: Final sentence.

Written by T.W.S.

"You really need to learn how to read the data, because you are really way off on your obvious ignorant interpretation of it....."

so... shall I assume you forgot?....or are you being dishonest?"

Let me refresh YOUR memory:

tagup - """ignorant..is an adjective".. blah, blah, blah.. ....I believe your exact wording was "obviously ignorant"..."

You clearly typed "obviously ignorant," which is NOT the two exact words that I used. Syntax matters, tagup. In the way you typed those two words demonstrates that "ignorant" is being used as a noun, which is a personal attack, and that is NOT how I wrote that sentence.

I wrote that sentence to convey, clearly, that she lacked knowledge of the subject to interpret the data correctly.

Again, another fine example of your lack of reading comprehension skills, and consistent foolish use of logical fallacies.

tagup

Your inability to be truthful is where the conversation ends for me.....

T.W.S.

tagup - "Your inability to be truthful is where the conversation ends for me....."

You're a denialist with NO integrity to admit that you are so clearly wrong. That is intellectual cowardice on your part.

Lulu

I think, TWS, you are the ideal candidate for a psychiatric couch. In fact, if I have to read your rants any longer, I must have compensation.
Expect a rather steep bill. Due on receipt.

T.W.S.

Lulu - "I think, TWS, you are the ideal candidate for a psychiatric couch. In fact, if I have to read your rants any longer, I must have compensation.
Expect a rather steep bill. Due on receipt."

Ah, the other denialist comments...and as expected, with yet another ad hominem argument. *facepalm* Intellectual cowardice and hypocrisy wrapped in a tight little package, eh Lulu!

Mike

TWS. You seem to love having the last word on anyone who addresses you. I like it. keep it up.

Lulu

"You and your cohorts just couldn't help yourselves (like a woman around chocolates)…"

TWS: state the factual basis for this remark that proves it true. Cite references, if necessary.

Lulu

TWS, don't you realize the damage you're inflicting on your chosen candidate? If people dislike you so intensely and view you as the class bully, and God knows they have sound reasons, they will automatically equate you with Miller. Maybe you're acting this way deliberately in order to elect Chapman. Very smooth...
Where's my answer to your banal chocolate/women statement?

Lulu

Is there an emoji for "faceass"?

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