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McMinnville man injured in Sunday afternoon Wallace Road crash

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John Smith Jr

Oh Oh, Latino name, you know what that means, right? We are going to start a huge discussion based on the ASSUMPTION that this person was in the country illegally and blah, blah, blah....for once, can we please not go there?

miketubbs1

John, there you've went and go again. Why?

Zen

actually, I'm surprised that no one had made a comment like that already, it's true, it seems like it always turns into "that" conversation, so I'm glad that it hadn't gone there, and hope it still doesn't!

GregT

I would be shocked if this person is in the country legally. The News Register is being negligent in not listing THE REASON he has a suspended license. It's a death race along this highway every afternoon when the nurseries are letting its illegal alien employees out for the day. One afternoon I was driving on this same road and a pickup pulled out from Evergreen Nursery RIGHT in front of me. He then proceeded to weave all over the road and at the Lincoln Store nearly ran another vehicle in the oncoming lane off the road and jerked his pickup back into his lane nearly flipping if over. I called 9-1-1 and while on the phone the driver, probably seeing I was on the phone to report him, pulled the 'ole switcheroo with his passenger while driving. Anyway I wonder if the driver in Sunday's accident worked for one of the nurseries with these terrible littering drivers. I really wish they would do a random checkpoint along busy routes and check EVERYONE'S ID's to make sure they are legal drivers, have insurance, and are in our country legally. Don't even discriminate, check every single person whether they have 4 names or 2. Also bring E Verify to Oregon and make all employers (yes, all including Del Smith's welfare receiving agricultural enterprises) use it. Do a search for all businesses in the 97114 zip code and it will reveal not a single company is using E Verify - hmm, I wonder why?

Hacksaw

Careful Greg your racism is showing.....You have just identified every nursery worker as an illegal based on one persons driving habits. Is it remotely possible that US citizens drive poorly, or (heaven forbid) litter?

Your idea to fix the problem is to suspend everyones rights and set up check points...interesting,you must be a big fan of Germany in the forties. Some food for thought.....who do you suppose would do agricultural work if migrants were gone? How about hotel housekeeping and restaurant jobs as well. Migrant labor has been here for decades...why is that do you suppose?

DM

Great job being a race baiter, John. You're no better than those who automatically assume somebody is illegal because of their name.

Greg needs to take a trip to North Korea to see how much fun random checkpoints can be, especially to those who don't look exactly like those manning the station.

GregT

there are plenty of American citizens who are capable and more skilled (did I mention LITERATE and not criminals) who are perfectly capable and willing to this type of unskilled and easy work. Why should we need a criminal underclass taking this work from our teenagers and early 20's citizens, clogging our social welfare system overcrowding our classrooms and putting our people at risk of accidents and driving up the cost of healthcare? The unemployment rate is 50% by some estimates for the 18-25 age group. People can do their own landscaping work. Your argument is pathetic and treasonous. Why is it "racism" to expect people be in the country legally and abide by the laws once here?

Hacksaw

It's not racism to expect people to abide by the law. It IS racism to lump a group of people into your inaccruate characterizations that they are criminals,on welfare etc etc etc.....just based on how they look or how many names they use (or maybe their driving ability?) Do you really believe all hispanics are illiterate? (Maybe you should look up the definition of that word) Let me guess, you don't speak spanish.....

You are dead wrong about the "local" population filling the available jobs in agriculture. Ask any nurseryman( Do you actually know any?) and he will tell you that without migrant labor his company is out of business. Same with the fruit crop in Washington. People can do their own landscaping work?....I guess that's one solution, but realistic..not really.

I think the only statement that is treasonous is your recommendation to set up road blocks to check identification of everyone passing by...or does that only apply to hispanics (or muslims or blacks)?

You sir need to see the implications of your statements...Do your homework!

GregT

As for Hacksaw's comparing this to Germany.... Many European countries and US States have random DUII checkpoints and guess what? Their DUII rates are lower! I would rather have the slight inconvenience of random stops than be dead or have someone I love be dead because of someone causing an accident on the road who had absolutely no right to be there in the first place. There are certain rules in place when you drive, ie have a license insurance be a legal citizen among other things. That is not racism..... its following the rules!

GregT

Hacksaw, I have worked in the industry and I have two degrees one in business management with an emphasis in Information Technology. My other degree is in ..... Drumroll ..... Spanish!! And I know for a fact that the agriculture industry employs a disproportionate amount of criminal aliens compared to other industries. Just because this has gone on for decades does not make it right and your argument that the industry cannot possibly support itself without a criminal alien workforce is complete balderdash.

Hacksaw

Did you have a minor in dancing?.....because you sure have sidestepped the issue.Your comments are racist and there is no way to sugar coat it.

Really....Agriculture employs a disproportionate amount of criminal aliens vs other industries....not surprising when you consider Ag is by far the largest employer of migrant workers.....What "other" industry did you compare, high tech and hospitals?

The fact is there are many, many hard working, literate (although it might not be YOUR language) family oriented and Honest people that do the "unskilled and easy" work. (Your words not mine). It's interesting that with all your education and work in the industry you still feel so insecure that you need to believe this entire group of people are all criminals and loafers. Take a closer look sometime..

GregT

Honest ? Do you call breaking the law honest? You must be a Democrat!

GregT

It's interesting that the only people who mentioned specific ethnic groups are Hacksaw and John. Who are the real "racists" here? I only alluded to people in the country illegally, and that we should have a system in place that only allows lawful citizens to work and drive here. But then that brought out the cries of "racism" in typical liberal fashion from Mr. Hacksaw. "family oriented and Honest people" who just happen to be breaking the law every single day by their presence here. You have a very interesting definition of "honest". Maybe I can steal every day from the convenience store, hey as long as I'm doing it in a family-oriented and hard-working way, that would be perfectly alright, ¿no? I have no problem with migrants who come to do work, as long as they law a legal right to be here. And foreign migrants should only be invited in WHEN and only WHEN there is a shortage of available workers here. And when they are finished with their work, they can go back to their native countries, be it Ireland, Canada, Fiji or Japan.

GregT

sorry for the grammatical error

Hacksaw

Backpeddle all you want, your comments are pretty clear....

GregT

You don't even want to debate because you know I'm right and have resorted to the insult, retreat and shut down the debate tactic. You know I'm right don't you?

Zen

@ Greg "there are plenty of American citizens who are capable and more skilled (did I mention LITERATE and not criminals) who are perfectly capable and willing to this type of unskilled and easy work"

I actually do hiring for a very large nursery in the county - this season, 3 out 158 applicants were non-hispanic, american citizens (believe it or not, you don't have to be white to be a citizen), so I'm wondering, where are all these people? Collecting unemployment probably. I hired 2 of them - one lasted 3 days, the other hurt his back and is on light duty, the third never answered my calls to come to work. Agriculture work is hard, physically demanding, miserably paid work. Yeah, you can find people willing to do it, but not for minimum wage, and they aren't going to be all that good at it, face it, that's the truth whether you wish to believe it or not.

Hard working, honest latinos make this country a better place, not to mention they make the food on your table affordable.

John Smith Jr

Greg said "And foreign migrants should only be invited in WHEN and only WHEN there is a shortage of available workers here. And when they are finished with their work, they can go back to their native countries, be it Ireland, Canada, Fiji or Japan."

Guess what? Immigrants are NOT your personal slaves, they are not disposable workers you can take advantage of and call when you need them and shame them out and even mistreat them when you don't. The US did this to itself, it opened the doors because we do need them and now that they are here and THINK we don't need them (we do), you want to get rid of them, what's next for you Mr. Racist Greg, putting people "to sleep" when you no longer have a use for them? When in your opinion (or someone else's) they become a burden? People aren't things - you can't expect them to come here when you need them, build a life, a family, have US citizen kids, and then bam, be kicked out because people like you think you don't need them anymore, leave what they have built, what they have worked for just because you feel like it.

Your ignorance and lack of respect and humanity towards others just because they are different from you is disgusting.

miketubbs1

At this moment I am watching an adult Starling working hard at trying to teach it's two youngsters how to work for a living. Interesting.

Hacksaw

Greg, I don't really see anything to debate...It's clear from your writings what your outlook is, and I don't have the time or inclination to change your mind. It was not my intention to insult you, but (as grandaddy used to say) if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...it's a duck.

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